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College Admissions Interviews

If you haven’t had a chance to check out our informational “how to” video on what not to do on a college admissions interview with an alumnus/alumna, check it out! And also check out our newsletter on the subject of alumni interviews.

If you still want more information on the college admissions interview with an alum, check out this video of Dartmouth’s Dean of Admissions Maria Laskaris and admissions counselor Colleen Wearn. It’s an instructional video for Dartmouth alumni interviewers that the college has posted online. By learning how alumni interviewers are instructed, you, as applicants, can gain insight into the alumni interview process and Ivy League admissions, too!

Ivy League Interest

Expressing interest in a university can often prove essential to gaining admission to that university. Colleges want to know that if they like you that you’ll like them back. Why? Because yield is a key component of the “US News & World Report” rankings. Colleges want to admit applicants who they think will attend. Why would an admissions officer from Cornell University admit a student when the applicant is the son of two Brown University professors, attended a summer session at Brown, and drew a picture of a Brown Bear on his Cornell application? That applicant is obviously going to choose Brown University over Cornell and with his great grades and scores as well as his parents’ pull at Brown, he’ll very likely get in. To admit him would work against Cornell’s yield and adversely impact its “US News & World Report” ranking.

In an article in “The Daily Beast” by Kristina Dell, an admissions officer at Dartmouth College and  the Dean of Admissions at the University of Pennsylvania made two very different statements about expressing interest in a college. Dan Parish, director of admissions and recruitment at Dartmouth, said, “As we make admissions decisions we try not to focus too much on people expressing an interest in Dartmouth. We should respect their application and try to convince them to attend on the other end. We don’t keep track of the number of times a student communicates with us. A student’s expressed interest in Dartmouth doesn’t play a role in our admissions decision.” And Eric Furda, Dean of Admissions at the University of Pennsylvania, said, “We wanted to know, why Penn? Did you submit a generic essay that was part of a school’s supplement—another school’s supplement? You may need to do a little bit more research before you hit the submit button. Take notes during the campus visit, and even if it isn’t your top choice, still understand that you need to speak to that school and show what you are going to contribute to that campus. Articulate why this school is for you. Students who do well will start citing faculty and programs they want to explore.”

And so we ask you — are they both right? Is one right and one wrong? Is one being a little more forthcoming than the other? The answer is…Eric Furda’s statement is more accurate. Counter to Dan Parish’s statement, a student’s “expressed interest in Dartmouth” absolutely does impact his/her admissions decision. If a student expressed in his/her essay that they wanted to go to Dartmouth College so they could spend four years in the big city, we at The Ivy Coach highly doubt admissions counselors at Dartmouth College will choose to admit that applicant. Hanover, New Hampshire is no big city. Just like their counterparts in the admissions office at Penn, admissions counselors at Dartmouth are looking to find wonderfully talented students who will create a remarkable class of incoming students…who want to attend Dartmouth (or in Penn’s case…Penn)! Mr. Parish certainly had the best intentions in mind when he stated that an applicant’s interest in the college came “on the other end” but Mr. Furda’s statement more accurately reflects what colleges are really looking for and that is — highly talented students with great grades, scores, recommendations, and essays…who express interest.

Check out “The Daily Beast” article here.

And read our related blog on expressing interest in a college or check out our informational videos.

Ivy League Rejection

Did you or your child receive a rejection letter from an Ivy League college yesterday? As you know, you’re not alone. Tens of thousands of applicants received these very letters. So now that your dreams of studying poetry under a tree at the same college that Robert Frost and Dr. Seuss once attended or where Woodrow Wilson once presided as university president prior to his inauguration as President of the United States have been crushed, you’re at a crossroads. But to (loosely) paraphrase Robert Frost, when two roads diverge in a wood, just get on a road and take it. You’ll find you can reach great heights in life with or without an Ivy League education.

Today can in fact be the beginning of that very road to success. Oh stop rolling your eyes! Have you ever noticed that the sons and daughters of highly successful people often don’t amount to much? Are there exceptions? Yes. Chelsea Clinton is an overachiever just like her parents, Bill and Hillary. But Chelsea Clinton is the exception to the rule — not the rule. Similarly, your Ivy League rejection can now be your impetus, your motivation for success in life. Princeton and Dartmouth didn’t think you were good enough? They didn’t have room for you? They didn’t think you could add to their diverse and talented student body? Well, now is the time to begin getting even and achieve successes that even your Ivy League counterparts may never achieve.

In a landmark study by Alan B. Krueger of Princeton University and Stacy Dale of Mathematica Policy Research, it was discovered that those who had been rejected by Ivy League colleges actually make the same amount of money throughout their lives as Ivy League graduates. According to the Moneywatch article, ”Students, who possessed high standardized test scores, yet were rejected from Ivy League-caliber institutions, were banking the same average earnings as Ivy League graduates. A rejected Yale applicant with a high SAT score, for example, who ends up attending the University of Miami or Tulane University would earn as much, on average, as Yale grads. ’The highest ranked school that rejected a student is a much stronger predictor of that student’s subsequent earnings than the average SAT score of the school the student actually attend,’ the study observed.”

So, basically, students who have the confidence to apply to Ivy League colleges, even if they are rejected, will find success in life. Don’t believe us? Ever heard of Tom Brokaw, the respected journalist and former face of NBC news? What about Lee Bollinger, the sitting president of Columbia University? How about John Kerry, the Massachusetts senator who earned a Silver Star in Vietnam? Warren Buffett? Meredith Vieira? The list goes on and on and on…

Check out the “Moneywatch” article, “Why Ivy League Rejects Earn More Money,” here or read the article in the “Wall Street Journal” entitled “When Success Follows the College Rejection Letter here.

And check out our post: There is life after being rejected.

Dartmouth College Student

Dartmouth College is very proud to have as a member of its class of 2014 an inspirational young man who has changed the world. This young man, William Kamkwamba, is the subject of the “New York Times” bestselling 2009 work of nonfiction by Bryan Mealer, “The Boy Who Harnessed the Wind: Creating Currents of Electricity and Hope.” Kamkwamba, a native of Malawi in southeast Africa, gained celebrity in 2002 when he constructed a windmill in his native country using bicycle parts, shoes, materials from the scrapyard, and blue gum trees to provide power to kitchen appliances in his home. Kamkwama has since built other windmills and a water pump that is solar-powered and provides clean drinking water to his neighbors.

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Dartmouth College's Remarkable Freshman

Kamkwamba, who couldn’t afford tuition to continue his formal schooling, received the remarkable honor of presenting at a prestigious TED Conference (Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Malcolm Gladwell are among the long list of other TED presenters) where venture capitalists offered to pay for his schooling in the United States. He chose to attend Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire. In speeches to Dartmouth College alumni groups throughout the country, Dartmouth President Jim Yong Kim is sharing the inspirational story of William Kamkwamba.

College admissions offices are always looking for students like William and the fact that the Dartmouth College Admissions Office managed to secure William’s matriculation demonstrates a great victory for the College on the Hill.

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The Grand Prize of the Dartmouth College Admissions Office